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Smernice in razmišljanja

Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a Shadenessness » 09 Mar 2011, 21:42

Kje dobiš prvih nekaj alg ne vem.. Mogoče obstaja kaka internetna trgovina z algami? Kolko sem prebral glede tega obstaja neka točno določena vrsta alg ki proizvede veliko maščob, katere se potem predelajo v biodiesel, te alge pa ne potrebujejo veliko za rast... Pretežno samo svetlobo in CO2, to sem samo prebral, če deluje nisem siguren:P

Naj bi šlo nekako takole: Najprej se alge namnožijo (da se jim neko hranilo, ki se ga dobiti iz rastlin), nato se jih strada (da se jim samo svetlobo in čim več CO2), potem se pa jih zmešna skupaj z malo koločino metanola in se to vse skupaj segreva, po nekaj časa se na vrhu naredi biodiesel, na dnu pa glicerin.

To govorim sedaj iz spomina, bom probal poiskat linke in ko jih najdem jih bom dodal temu postu.
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a tojezanas » 09 Mar 2011, 22:56

Niko, me veseli, da si uspel... :roll:
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a Niko » 10 Mar 2011, 20:02

"How many escape capsules are there?"
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"Did you count them?"
"Twice!"
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a fortehlulz » 10 Mar 2011, 20:27

najprej moraš vrjeti, šele potem lahko narediš. obratno ne gre... :|
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a Niko » 10 Mar 2011, 20:37

Verjamem vase.
Verjamem tudi Vate.

Ostalo "verjetje" je religija. Pozitiven odnos in optimizem sta vitalnega pomena, ne gre ju pa zamenjati s slepo vero in naivnostjo.
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a Tomaz » 10 Mar 2011, 21:39

Ehm... :arrow: off topic!
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a _Mitto_ » 11 Mar 2011, 01:42

Fantje treba bo mal moderacije. Tist, ki se s helix turino ukvarja, nej odpre forum temo za ta projekt, isto velja za alge in geodezične strukture. Tukej dejmo o razstlinjaku.
Ja, sej vem, da je zadeva povezana. Ampak tako nam bo lažje sledit. Se strinjamo?
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a fortehlulz » 11 Mar 2011, 07:33

sem naredil .
ta tema naj bo namenjena splošni debati in idejam, za specifične dele se pa odpira nova tema (tako kot je Mitto naredil za )
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Re: Projekt: Rastlinjak

PrispevekNapisal/a fortehlulz » 11 Mar 2011, 07:36

Whenever people agree with me I feel I must be wrong...
"nowhere" = "now" + "here"
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a tojezanas » 11 Mar 2011, 15:56

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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a Tomaz » 11 Mar 2011, 16:41

Ne, probleme na projektih, ki jih izvajate.
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a sebastjan leskovšek » 12 Mar 2011, 02:20

Enostavno se vprašajte kakšen rastlinjak bi bilo pri nas najbolj smiselno graditi glede na vire, ki jih pri nas imamo. Nesmiselno bi bilo uvažati materiale čez pol planeta, če so alternative na voljo pri nas. To je tudi garancija v primeru collapsa sistema. Najprej bodo na voljo viri iz neposredne okolice.
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a _Mitto_ » 12 Mar 2011, 15:40

- Prosti študentski zapiski, sodeluj tudi TI. Literatura za vsakogar.
- Odprto mesh brezžično omrežje slovenije.
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a Tomaz » 12 Mar 2011, 15:50

I do not wish to bely your powers of observation but I would like to remind you of the paradoks of asking a masked man who he is...
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a tojezanas » 13 Mar 2011, 04:18

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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a fortehlulz » 14 Mar 2011, 12:31

Whenever people agree with me I feel I must be wrong...
"nowhere" = "now" + "here"
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a anubis92 » 14 Mar 2011, 17:15

Za recimo 3k naj bi se postavila dostojna elektrana na sončne celice. Je pa res de je tale 98 metrska vetrnica bolj kul videza, pa nima jo vsak pred hišo ;)
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a Tomaz » 14 Mar 2011, 17:37

http://www.zeleno-kupi.si/product_info. ... cts_id=385

Za isti denar imate 3 take in 1500W program. Preostali denar pa porabite za
akumulatorje
http://www.zeleno-kupi.si/product_info. ... cts_id=402
in inverter... :D
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a anubis92 » 14 Mar 2011, 17:57

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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a Tomaz » 14 Mar 2011, 18:09

Glej, resno, 1500W so te tri vetrnice, kjer bi za sončni program za isti denar imel mogoče 300W. Plus tega ti bo vetrnica še ponoči delala. Samo dovolj visoko jo moreš dat da tudi ko spodaj močno ne piha zgoraj zagotovo bolj, saj v višinah ni toliko dreves ipd. da bi veter zavirale. 8-)
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a anubis92 » 14 Mar 2011, 18:40

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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a fortehlulz » 15 Mar 2011, 13:50

hey yo!

jest sm glih s sestanka z vodjem marketinga v Lidlu in se želijo naprej pogovarjati o sponzoriranju izgradnje rastlinjaka (ter mogoče tudi distribucije te hrane po celi sloveniji - prodajala bi se po neki simbolični ceni, toliko, da se pokrijejo vsi stroški logistike itd.)

če spravimo zadevo v rang 10-20k €, sem prepričan, da so na naši strani. 10 - 20k bom pa našel še v kakšni energetski firmi (za elektrarno).

to je bil moj PRVI pogovor, takoj uspešen. zdaj rabim TOČNE načrte, popis materiala, stroška, itd.
ko to imamo, lahko dobimo denar. AKTIVIRAJTE SE, vsi ki lahko pomagate, aktivirajte vaše znance, ki imajo znanje na tehničnem področju. denar imamo pripravljen.

mislim, da je glede na trenutno blokado Mobitela glede izgradnje vetrnih elektrarn primerno, da prvi rastlinjak postavimo s sončnimi celicami.
v isti sapi pa gremo v boj za vetrne elektrarne - je treba slovensko javnost prepričat, da se ne bodo vsi ptiči odselili zaradi nekaj vetrnic. :)

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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a anubis92 » 15 Mar 2011, 20:01

Super. Jaz bi če se bo le dalo sodeloval pri tem projektum kakorkoli bi pač lahko. Midva se lahko o tem pogovoriva jutri na kavi :)

Javim se tudi, da se poskušam zmeniti za sončne module in vso ostalo opreme, ter najdem najcenejšega ponudnika v kolikor se bo res uporabila sončna energija, le izračune koliko W se dejansko rabi bi rabil, ker ne vem koliko jo je dejansko potrebne.
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a Tomaz » 15 Mar 2011, 20:09

Če boste delali hidroponiko potem je poraba 20W na čpalko (cca.) in če boste delali akvaponiko pa je poraba 300-350W (samo pozimi) za gretje rib (če gojite tako vrsto ko ni navajena na mraz).

Seveda pa mislim da bo pozimi možno ogrevati celotno kupolo z samo 500W grelcem.
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Re: Smernice in razmišljanja

PrispevekNapisal/a anubis92 » 15 Mar 2011, 20:14

Torej se je treba odločiti kaj se bo delalo, sumim da hidroponiko.
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